Nola Moses from New Zealand writes

I'm interested in William Herrick who married Elizabeth Toogood. He died at a early age in England and Elizabeth remarried and came to New Zealand with her two sons from her marriage to William Herrick. She remarried in 1837 so William would of died shortly before this How did he die and who was his parents?

I know we are in some way connected to Robert herrick the Poet. A little bit of what an old letter written by a Herrick daughter in 1850 says.

William John Herrick was born at Pentenville, London Nov 4th 1825. His father was William John Herrick. The ones in William Johns family were Joseph the Congregational minister at Colchester for 50 years Henry, 2nd son was a barometer and Thermometer maker in London William John Our Ancestor John 4th son died while young from an accident Sarah married a man named Mussett

I'm pretty sure that Sir William Herrick and Robert Herrick the poet are our ancestors.
A letter written by Emily Elizabeth Herrick b 1850 in N.Z mentions
" In the early 1700s a person by the name of Sylvanus Urban, discovered the poems written by Robert Herrick and was instrumental in having them published. Sylvanus was taken as a family name. ( a few of the N.Z Herricks have Sylvanus in their names). goes on to say"

Robert herrick, the poet was the son of a silver and goldsmith and it is noticeable how each generation down to my fathers family there were silversmiths and goldsmiths or jewellers in each line of descendants."
and more
"Elizabeth Toogood,s grandmother was a descendant of the earl of Fortesque. Her Uncle and 2 aunts were at St James Palace for years. The uncle was porter to George iv and William iv and died in the service of Queen Victoria at the age of 84."

I dont know if youve seen the grave of Robert herrick but this is what she says
" In 1857 ( I,think, her writing is a bit hard to read) a costly monument was erected to the memory of Robert Herrick, Minister and Poet. in Dean Prior church by a kinsman and then present head of the family, William Percy Herrick, Beau Manor Park, Leicestershire.. It is out of solid block of (something-)stone and adorned with a rich carving of fruit and foliage and the inscription in the brass plate is as follows.

In this churchyard lie the remains of Robert HerrickAuthor of Hesperides and other poems. of an ancient family of Leicestershire and born in the year 1591. He was educated at St ( ?) college and Trinity Hall, Cambridge. Preented to this living (etc etc too hard to read) This tablet was erected to his memory by his kinsman William Percy Herrick a.d.1857 Susequently Nola sent this:
researched by Nola Moses. Some mistakes may of been made. WILLIAM JOHN HERRICK . he was a Jeweller children were JOSEPH 1st son, a noted Congregational Minister at (looks like ) Colchester for 50 years. he was also a jeweller before he entered the Ministry, after which he married his masters daughter. HENRY 2nd son,was a barometer and thermometer maker in London WILLIAM JOHN 3rd son information on him below. JOHN 4th son died ,result of an accident while young SARAH married a man named Mussett. (3rd son) WILLIAM JOHN HERRICK b, abt 1812 d, before 1837.at the age of 25 in England. he had been a Book-keeper at Angel Inn, Islington when Stage Coaches ran instead of trams.. married to ELIZABETH TOOGOOD. born in Devonshire, England . Family sources say she died near Nelson in 1855 aged 55 years children were JOHN (WILLIAM JOHN ) born at Pentonville, London 4th November 1825.died, 29th April 1892 and buried at Motueka.. JOSEPH JOHN 1831- 1904 was born at Islington, London.. More on him below. ELIZABETH (BETSY) baptised 25th Dec 1830 at Islington, London . Stayed in England and married a Mr BANKS A notice in the Nelson Colonist 28th September 1892. " At residence, St Andrews Terrace, Vauxall Bridge, Pimlico, London. by accident ELIZABETH BANKS, sister of the late W.J Herrick, Range Farm. Aged 70 years" ............................................................................................... The 2 boys went to New Zealand with their mother and stepfather. Also 2 girls from Edward Allen,s 1st marriage. Elizabeth (Toogood) Herrick married EDWARD ALLEN 27th Feb 1837 at All Souls, St Marybone, London.. Together, with Elizabeths children from her marriage to William Herrick and the 2 girls from Mr Allens marriage travelled to New Zealand from England on the "FIFESHIRE" under the name of their stepfather Edward Allen. The boys later took back their name of Herrick The Fifeshire left Deal, England 26th Sept 1841 arriving at Nelson 1st Feb 1842. listed on the passenger list under the Allen name was EDWARD, age 35 carpenter (he was paid 25 pounds to be the ships schoolmaster on the journey out) ELIZABETH, (nee Herrick, nee Toogood) age 37. JOHN age 15 carpenter JOSEPH age 11 BETSY age 9 ELIZA age 7.. Edward Allen and Elizabeth,s children were: ALLEN, THOMAS b, 23rd April 1851-d, 4th Aug 1851 ALLEN, THOMAS EDWARD b, 31st March 1853. Elizabeth Allen( , nee herrick, nee Toogood) died, family sources say she died near Nelson in 1855 at the age of 55. as we have Edward William Allen subsequently married Frances WYNN (nee CONNORS) on 10th June 1856 at Auckland. ............................................................................................................................................................... from the Cyclopedia of New Zealand 1905. WILLIAM JOHN HERRICK , sometime of lower Moutere, was one of the pioneers of nelson, where he arrived by the ill fated Fifeshire on the 1st Feb 1842..After residing at Spring Grove district till 1865, the family moved to Motueka and settled in Lower Moutere, where Mr Herrick subsequently aquired about 700 acres of land. As in the case of his first residence in new Zealand, he had to carve out a home in the bush, and to contend with the difficulities associated with settling on swampy land.Mr Herrick was born in London in 1825, and followed the calling of a linen Draper, in Regent Street up to the time of his departure from the Old Counrty. He died early in 1892, when he left a widow, seven sons, and four daughters to mourn him. His widow resides on the homestead at Lower Moutere, wher theproperty is managed by one of the younger sons. Mrs herrick is a very old colonist, as she arrived at Nelson by the ship "Clifford" on the 24th May 1842.. They had 14 children, the childrens names and birth dates are taken out of a family bible.and from a letter written by Emily E. Farley ( youngest daughter) The Motueka death dates and ages are from Cemetery records. WILLIAM JOHN HERRICK 4th Nov 1825--died 24th April 1892. buried at Motueka marr in 1847 to JULIA WRATT (1830- 4th Aug 1902..died Lower Moutere aged 73 years) Headstone reads " W.J Herrick died Aprril 24th 1892 aged 66 years" "Julia Herrick died August 4th 1902 aged 73 years. children of william & Julia were WILLIAM ASHTON b, 23rd Oct 1847. marr Sarah TENNANT (or Tannant)in 1871. JOSEPH JOHN b, 1849. d, 9th Aug 1875 aged 26 years. ANNIE AGNES b, 8th Nov 1850 , d, 1944 marr James ATKINS 1880.d, 1944 ALFRED GEORGE b, 1853.. d, 13th Aug 1933 aged 80 JANE ELIZABETH b, 1854...d, 8th Oct 1854 aged 25 days FRANCIS WILLIAM b, 1855 marr Alice Mary GILL 18th Feb 1880. JULIA JANE b, 1858 marr Thomas SMITH 15th Aug 1880 GEORGE EDWARD b, 1860 marr Kate FLOWERS d, 17th July 1912 EDWARD MONTGOMERY b, 20th April 1862 marr Margaret STEWART JANE HANNAH b, 19th July 1864 marr James STAPLES 1st Aug 1888 HENRY JAMES (HARRY) b, 1867.. d, 30th May 1908 aged 41 SYLVANUS ARTHUR b, 28th Sept 1868 at Motueka..d ,15th Nov 1942 aged 74 EMILY ELIZABETH b, 15th Feb1871 marr Frederick William FARLEY 1919. LEONARD CECIL b, 5th July 1873 ..d, 20th Feb 1876 aged 2 years 7 months. other Herricks in the motueka Cemetery are MARY ANNIE SOPHIA d, 16th March 1952 aged 80 Mrs A ...... Resvd (Reserved ,dont know what year these council sheets were put into files! when did Mrs A Herrick die same plot as Slyvanus Herrick. Child d, 30th Dec 1884 JULIA CATHERINE d, 4th Aug 1902 aged 73 ELIZA d, 25th Jan 1928 aged 81 JULIA d, 28th April 1964 aged 96 1..WILLIAM ASHTON HERRICK reliable sources say in the Methodist Archives, which were in Christchurch say " William Ashton. Parents Julia Ratt and John Kerr, Farmer Waimea . born 23rd Oct 1847. baptised by John Aldred 21st Dec 1847" This is in the Wesleyan Methodist Baptismal Register begining 26th June 1842 and William Ashton entry is numbered 323!" Registrar-Generals index gives marriage date of William John Herrick and Julia Ratt as 1847. Was this an arranged marriage? It will be why his name is not on the herrick birth list,.he was adopted by William John Herrick and to be known as his 1st son.. children of William Ashton and Sarah Herrick are to be confirmed , but family thinks that Leonard Herrick was one of his sons. LEONARD WILLIAM HERRICK(other sources say his name was Leonard Joseph Cecil ) marr Caroline MARTIN in 1903 (proably Greytown ) they had a son Alfred William (says in other sources that his name was Alfred George Herrick marr Doreen Hope Holyoake 4th July 1928 at Riwaka. (They raised 9 children .information abt Alfreds children can be found in the Clark family book and the Holyoake book.) children of William Ashton & Sarah Tennant ( all children not yet found) " WILLIAM JAMES HERRICK of Upper Moutere 4th son of W.A. Herrick marr Nellie GRACE youngest dau of James DELANY of Ngtamoti on the 4th Nov, 1914" JULIA CATHERINE b, 1877 "On Jan 30th 1899 at nelson Hospital, Julia Catherine, eldest daughter of William Ashton Herrick of Carterton. aged 21 years"..buried at Motueka.. MARY " 19th June 1900 at Carterton, Mary dau of W.S (proabably meant to be A)Herrick and grandau of Mrs Herrick of Lower Moutere died aged 15 years" check this one out! ..................................................................................................... 2..JOSEPH JOHN HERRICK b, 1849 d,9th Aug 1875 aged 26 years.from inflammation of the lungs.. ..sources say he was buried in Motueka. but cant find his name on the burial records (could of been forgotten) ....................................................................................................... .3..ANNIE AGNES HERRICK b, 1850, Spring Grove. marr James ATKINS (b 10th Sept 1848, Motueka) in 1880. notes for AnnieAgnes. James Atkins spent his early life on the farm in Atkins Road, Motueka. He was not considered "suitable" by Annie Herricks parents and went to the Thames goldfields. He came back for his "first love" when" she was old enough to make her own dicisions". For 5 years they farmed in Motueka. In mid 1885 James, Annie, their three children and his brother-in-law Jim & JANE (nee HERRICK) STAPLES (pregnant with their first child) arrived Sept 1885 in Otaki near Pukekaraka Pa (about three miles south of Manakua School) along the under-construction Wellington-Manawatu railway line. The materials for their house and all their possesions were dragged by horse and dray into the bush, along the railway bed, to their new farm sites. The house was made from pit-sawn timber and was still standing in 1984.. ................................................................................................................ 4..ALFRED GEORGE HERRICK b, 1852. d,13th Aug 1933 buried in the Motueka Cemetery aged 80. ELIZA died 25th Jan 1928 buried at Motueka BDM in Christchurch library HERRICK, ALFRED GEORGE, AGE 26 Batchelor, Miller. marr ELIZA BUSH age 32, widow. Marr in the Baptist Church, Hereford Street, Christchurch. date 5th Jan 1878....witnesses Henry Roberts & Annie Leggett both of Christchurch.. Minister, Charles Dallaston.. Eliza d, Jan 1928 & Alfred George married again to JULIA CRAIG in 1928.. Julia (Craig) Herrick buried in the Lawn Cemetery on the other side of the road to the old Cemetery part where all the 'other" Herricks are. "Julia, wife of Alfred Herrick died 28th April 1964 aged 96 years. Headstone of Alfred George & Eliza Herrick.."Alfred George Herrick died August 13th 1933 aged 80 years & Eliza Herrick died Jan 25th 1928 aged 81 years. At Rest" ........................................................................................................................ 5..JANE ELIZABETH b, 1854. died 8th Oct 1854 aged 25 days..Buried same plot as William John & Julia.Herrick ....................................................................................................................... 6..FRANCIS WILLIAM HERRICK b, 1855 d, 18th Feb 1880 "18th Feb 1880 by special licence at Lower moutere by Rev Poole. Franceis William Herrick 4th son of W.J Herrick to Alice Mary Gill 4th dau of W Gill, Wakapuaka.. "HERRICK, FRANCIS WILLIAM , Farmer "Sunnyside" Lower Moutere. Mr Herricks fine freehold section comprises 250 acres, conveniently subdivided into paddocks. The soil is sutiable for the cultivation of wheat and oats. Mr Herrick was born in the Waimeas, Nelson and has settled in the Moutere district for over 40 years.".( If I recall right this was also taken from the Cyclopedia of New Zealand 1905) children found are HERRICK, HOWARD VIVIAN b, Oct 1885, Nelson. death notice in paper " 28th May 1905 at residence of parents, Lower moutere, Howard Vyvyan Herrick youngest son of F.W & A.M Herrick, in his 20th year" ........................................................................................................................... 7.. JULIA JANE HERRICK b, 1858 d, marr Thomas SMITH 15th Aug 1880 "15th August 1880 at Residence of brides father at Range Farm, Lower Moutere by the Rev S Poole. Thomas Smith of Wellington to Julia Jane herrick 2nd Daughter of William John Herrick" ........................................................................................................................... 8..GEORGE EDWARD HERRICK b, 1860 married Kate FLOWERS d, 17th July1912 at Woodville aged 52. .............................................................................................................................. 9..EDWARD MONTGOMERY HERRICK b, 20th April 1862 married Margaret STEWART 1899. .............................................................................................................................. 10..JANE HANNAH HERRICK b, 19th July 1864. marr James STAPLES 1st Aug 1888.. ( the dates dont correspond with her being pregnant with their first child when they went north in 1885! ) The earlier information given by someone else must have their dates wrong?!) notice in Nelson newspaper states " 1st August 1888 at Lower Moutere by Rev B.Thomas, James , son of John Staples of Motueka to Jane Hannah ,dau of William John Herrick of range farm, Lower Moutere"
................................................................................................................................. 11..HENRY JAMES (HARRY) HERRICK b, 1866 died 30th May 1908 aged 41 buried at Motueka. same plot as William John & Julia.."Henry J. Herrick died 30th May 1908 aged 41 years"
............................................................................................................................... 12..SYLVANUS ARTHUR HERRICK b, 28th Sept 1868 at Motueka.d, 15th Nov 1952 .aged 74. buried at Motueka. married Mary Annie Sophia Krammer b, 1872. she died 16th March 1952 aged 80. buried at Motueka Headstone reads " Sylvanus Arthur , husband of Mary Herrick died Nov 15th 1942 aged 74. & of Mary Herrick died March 16th 1952 aged 80 years"
............................................................................................................................... 13..EMILY ELIZABETH b, 15th Feb 1871. married Frederick William FARLEY 1919.She died in August 1947.
................................................................................................................................ 14..LEONARD CECIL HERRICK b, 5th July 1873 d, 20th feb 1876 aged 2 years 7 months. buried same plot as William J & Julia.." Leonard Cecil Herrick died Feb 20th 1876 aged 2 years"
................................................................................................................................ Cemetery records show that a child is buried in the same plot as William John Herrick , who died 30th Dec 1884. On the herrick births there is a Frances Hubert who was born in Nelson 1884.(Is this him ?)
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brother of William John Herrick who came out to New Zealand was Joseph John Herrick ( Complete file is separate).
JOSEPH JOHN moved from Nelson to Christchurch (Tai Tapu ) in the 1860s and then part of his family moved to Auckland around ww1.

JOSEPH JOHN HERRICK b, 1831 in Islington, London, England. He died 5th Jan 1904 and is buried in Springston Cemetery, Christchurch.
marriage.."7th Dec 1858 at residence of Mr D Moulder, Nelson by Rev J Warren. Joseph J Herrick to Helen L Hammond dau of W Hammond of Spring Grove" information about him can be found in the Cyclopedia of New Zealand ,Vol3. page 672 including photos..part says he had 8 sons and 5 daughters. Only 1 son missing.
Springston Cemetery Headstone reads.
In loving memory of Joseph John Herrick died 5th Jan 1904 aged 72 years.
and of Helen Letitia, wife of the above d, 16th july 1923 aged 83 years
also his son Walter Mongomery died 18th Nov 1892 aged 13.
also two grandchildren who died in infancy..
Excerpt taken from the Nelson Colonist"
7th December 1858 at the residence of Mr D Moulder, Nelson. by Rev J Warren. Joseph J Herrick to Helen Hammond, daughter of W Hammond of Spring Grove..
JOSEPH JOHN married Helen Letitia HAMMOND daughter of William Hammond and Elizabeth ? in 1858. Helen was born abt 1840.They had the following children:

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